Here's a formal petition to ATI complaining about their piss-poor Linux support...
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html
Sorry if this has already been posted, I did a quick search and didn't see anything.
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Here's a formal petition to ATI complaining about their piss-poor Linux support...
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html
Sorry if this has already been posted, I did a quick search and didn't see anything.
I signed it and I use Nvidia. But I figured, in the future I may end up with an ATI card and need the driver.
I signed it earlier today. I have a Radeon 9000m in my laptop and even though the regular ATI drivers work with this, they are very unstable and have some funky flaws when playing large maps in UT2004 (no Onslaught for me!)
It would also be nice if they supported the moble chips at all, these things eat up battery power like no tommorow just sitting idle in Fluxbox.
Maybe one day ATI will stop giving us half-arsed drivers and get on the boat like nVidia has been doing for years
I'm #2363:D
just signed
Well the poorness of the drivers should make my install tonight or tomorrow more interesting :p
I'll sign when I've gotten aggravated enough.
If you're using a 2.6 Kernel, you'll have to modify the driver source code for 3D acceleration to work (at least that was the case when I installed mine).Quote:
Originally posted by Dancen
Well the poorness of the drivers should make my install tonight or tomorrow more interesting :p
I'll sign when I've gotten aggravated enough.
I was going to install Slack 10, which has 2.4.26, but I was going to update that right away, so this may be an issue. What video card do you have?Quote:
Originally posted by andysimmons
If you're using a 2.6 Kernel, you'll have to modify the driver source code for 3D acceleration to work (at least that was the case when I installed mine).
*hopes it's not the same as mine :cool: *
2533 is me :)
signed
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html
I merged your thread with one already active.
6708
mmmm @least they make linux drivers and those are more up-2-date than the windows drivers i use for my ATI mobility radeon 9000
thos ******* don't make mobility drivers :( so i need to use winXP drivers from 2003
(also Fujitsu is to blame but i like to use the official manufacturor drivers)
(if anyone have good mobility proof drivers (catalyst) i would like to know where i can get them :))
imho, the best way to "Yell" at them is to not buy their products.
maybe if they lose business they will learn.
they have a very long history of dropping support / crappy support - and not just with Video Cards
signed!
I agree, the only way to get action from ATI is to ignore them like the gamers did. worked for them, will work for Linux users as well.Quote:
Originally posted by Hayl
imho, the best way to "Yell" at them is to not buy their products.
maybe if they lose business they will learn.
they have a very long history of dropping support / crappy support - and not just with Video Cards
buy nVidia, show your support for the company who has shown theirs.
BaVinic
Signed ! ...
I really wish that they do some human drivers ....
I signed it, as I have a Radeon 7000 in my tower, anyone have any ideas on doing the same to Intel and SiS??
Intel has not released a driver for Centrino, although they claim to be helping the community, if you look on the sourceforge site, you will that nearly all of the contributors are individuals and not Intel, GRRR, also SiS give crappy support, I still can't get 3D for my laptop!!!
the laptop i want only comes with ati, so i signed it
#11581
Check the mailing list, it is true that a lot of work has been done by volenteers but James Ketrenos is working VERY hard on the ipw2100 AND ipw2200 drivers. There is also another guy or two from Intel working on them.Quote:
Originally posted by leonpmu
Intel has not released a driver for Centrino, although they claim to be helping the community, if you look on the sourceforge site, you will that nearly all of the contributors are individuals and not Intel
I have and use the ipw2100 card/drivers and they work GREAT. The ipw2200 has been progressing in leaps and bounds. They are truely doing a great job
BTW, the ipw2100 was released in April and the ipw2200 was released in June. For two projects that are extremely young still, they are doing great!
Not signed. Not buying. I have an ATI and I've learned my lesson. It's an ok card, it was (one of?) the first 3D cards for a laptop, so I can't complain there. But if I have a choice: nVidia.
I Think another big way to let them know you're frustrated is to directly tell them -
http://apps.ati.com/linuxDfeedback/index.asp
[their linux feedback form]
I think directly venting your frustrations to them via their company website would be more effective than the petition.
That petition made Slashdot news and they updated their drivers! Still not open source though.
LINK
404 file not found.:(Quote:
Originally posted by JThundley
That petition made Slashdot news and they updated their drivers! Still not open source though.
LINK
should be:Quote:
Originally posted by Sgood1971
404 file not found.:(
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl...id=152&tid=106
I just sent this thread to a buddy of mine, to help explain why, I prefer to use Nvida cards over ATI ones in my systems, and he told me " blah,blah, blah, sorry you have a 2nd rate card in your system :P and he is an RHCE and long time redhat user. oh well i guess I'll just stick to my Nvida cards for now
I am signature # 14641
# 14876
I passed this thread on to others who are stuck with ATi cards.
My only comment to this whole state of affairs is:
I love my Matrox! ;)
::: sauntering smugly away :::
signed.
Hey Andy,
any way of knowing when this will be sent to ATI, it would be good to see the look on their faces when it arrives!!
Number 16,000ish. I used ATI with linux for a long time and found it frustrating in the ways I was limited graphically.
16,454 here.
Hurry up ATI.
Charles
Well as this petition continues to grow, has anyone tried the drivers the recently released (9/9/04)?
I'm going to try them today, I think they've hit Gentoo's portage by now...Quote:
Originally posted by pezplaya
Well as this petition continues to grow, has anyone tried the drivers the recently released (9/9/04)?
-edit-
Whoops, I've had the 3.12 drivers installed for weeks... :)
Trying an Onslaught map in UT2004 as that's where I've always seen the biggest problems
-edit-edit-
Torlan palyed for a little bit before the graphics barfed. So other then playing well for those few minutes it ran well :)
I just signed. Also, when they brought out their new proprietary drivers, I tried them to see if I could get my dad's ATI card to work. Naturally, it wouldn't. They asked for feedback on their drivers, and here's what I wrote to them:
_____________________________________________
We in the Linux community would like nothing more than to do your
work *for* you, thus reducing your R&D costs. If you'd simply open
the source for your drivers, we could make them work much better.
And, from a business standpoint, this would make us *want* to buy your
products, rather than rue your company's adherance to proprietary
drivers and hope that someone else can better meet our demands.
NVidia has made the same mistake, and whichever one of you would open
your source first would net you support from the Linux community. The
scales would be tipped in your favor. Instead, we're constantly
trying to find alternate solutions. Simplify matters: *Allow us to
make better drivers for you*.
As it stands, the 9800SE I bought for my dad's new computer only
works for 2D applications, thus removing the point of spending so much
money on a video card instead of a low-end integrated video set. I
shall be returning your card shortly if I can only resist the impulse
to first break it with a hammer. Hopefully, one of your competitors
can better meet my needs as a consumer. Congratulations: you just
lost money.
____________________________________________
And sure, nVidia cards might tend to work better, but I'm still very, very angry that they won't open up their drivers for examination/modification...or at least that's the last I heard on the matter. Perhaps I'm misinformed.
My ATi Radeon 9000 works just fine with the default "radeon" driver, full 3D acceleration et al. :p
Brilliant writing there :) Couldn't have said it better myself.Quote:
Originally posted by palsyboy
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We in the Linux community would like nothing more than to do your
work *for* you, thus reducing your R&D costs. If you'd simply open
the source for your drivers, we could make them work much better.
And, from a business standpoint, this would make us *want* to buy your
products, rather than rue your company's adherance to proprietary
drivers and hope that someone else can better meet our demands.
NVidia has made the same mistake, and whichever one of you would open
your source first would net you support from the Linux community. The
scales would be tipped in your favor. Instead, we're constantly
trying to find alternate solutions. Simplify matters: *Allow us to
make better drivers for you*.
As it stands, the 9800SE I bought for my dad's new computer only
works for 2D applications, thus removing the point of spending so much
money on a video card instead of a low-end integrated video set. I
shall be returning your card shortly if I can only resist the impulse
to first break it with a hammer. Hopefully, one of your competitors
can better meet my needs as a consumer. Congratulations: you just
lost money.
____________________________________________
Hopefully somebody is actually listening.
#18848
Signed. I was #19085.