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first off, what exactly is pacman(other than a game that plants subliminal messages in kids ;))?

Second off, I'm assuming that pacman lists the dependencies for the specified package?...From the...

Enlightenment does NOT use gtk.

and just because kdm doesn't come with entries for fluxbox and pekwm doesn't mean that you cant use it, it means that you need to make entires...

then use one of the *boxen or another wm that doesn't make use of gtk.

just because a wm uses gtk doesn't mean you cant use qt apps...you just need to have qt installed...

:eek: Sawfish! Theres one I haven't used in a while! I love the port of the theme 'Cyrus'.

I tried it out independantly and loved how it looked, especially with the gtk2 menu....However the lisp...

When I want that, I use Enlightenment myself :)

I tend to be a chronic openbox user...even when I decide to use gnome, I usually use openbox instead of metacity :D