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    If you read the /. article and the comments you find SCO is planning to make money quickly from this FUD. Likely to help pay some legal costs.

    The SCO Group is recommending people come in and have their Linux code evaluated, so they can show them where they are in violation (yes there's an NDA). Then offer them licensing deals to "protect them".

    Yes there are people falling for this.
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    Wink

    Yes there are people falling for this.
    Excellent point. But how do you know?

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    Excellent point. But how do you know?
    This is according to statements from some SCO bigwigs. Companies that have existing [Unix] licenses have been contacted to review their code. They have had some response based on advice given by their legal teams (which is one excuse SCO has used when saying something stupid).

    Also I would like to point out somthing in regards to this thread.

    There is an old saying. "If you find yourself in a hole, it's best to stop digging". There's another, "get your friggin stories straight".

    The bigwigs at SCO have obviously failed to do this. While one moron states that the lawsuit was due to breach of contract and that SCO never claimed to own Unix IP, another stated that Novell is full of it and they are currently reviewing their contracts regarding Novell/Unix.
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    ....there'll be tears before bedtime

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    This reminds me of one of my favourite gripes. I got a recording of RMS doing a speech on software patents and there's one thing he said that really sticks with me - to paraphrase, "I don't have an opinion on 'intellectual property' because no such thing exists in law - there are only the separate systems of copyright, patents and trademarks".

    SCO's original filed complaint and press releases talked a lot about "intellectual property rights" and sometimes just "the rights". As soon as someone (Novell) pins them down and says "what rights exactly?" then we get sensible talk about separate patents and copyrights and contracts and the whole thing reveals itself as the huge farce that it really is.

    So now it's just SCO against IBM, arguing over a contract. The Linux kernel and GNU programs are safe from SCO, and by the looks of it, SCO knew that but *still* sent out those letters to corporate Linux users hoping that vague FUD and talk of "intellectual property" would scare them into buying licenses off SCO.

    Grrr.

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    This keeps getting better and better
    SCO is now threating to sue Linus himself for 'infringements'
    CBS Market Watch article

    I wonder if I can get the movie rights for this when it's all over
    It could be a TV movie mini-series

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    "I don't have an opinion on 'intellectual property' because no such thing exists in law - there are only the separate systems of copyright, patents and trademarks".
    Unfortuantely people love to take things apart and evaluate them too literally. RMS is doing just that. He's taken what is considered IP and removed the generic term. That's like saying there's no such thing as an automobile, just cars, trucks and vans.

    General definition:

    Any product of the human intellect that is unique, novel, and unobvious (and has some value in the marketplace).

    Legal definition:

    Property that can be protected under federal law, including copyrightable works, ideas, discoveries, and inventions. Such property would include novels, sound recordings, a new type of mousetrap, or a cure for a disease.
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    (sorry I didn't have time to read all of the previous posts)

    Basicly if what they are saying is as stated on the first post:
    "If it does the same job as our code, then it's our code"

    Then that implies that whoever created the first type of any
    program can claim ownership of someone else's software
    which may be written from scratch but does the same
    function as their code...
    I think intelectual property is stupid in the first place, someone
    in reality is claiming ownership over 'digital 1's and 0's'...

    but what Im trying to say is that no court can take
    this seriously if:
    "If it does the same job as our code, then it's our code"
    is all they have going for them... That's rediculous....

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    Here is an article with proof that SCO do not own the Unix IP. I can't wait for the lawsuites against SCO to start piling up

    http://perens.com/Articles/SCO/SCO_10-K.html

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    Should companies remove Linux from their systems? We're not making any specific recommendations at this time. We're still getting our arms around the size of this problem. We're still identifying more and more code from Unix System V that is in Linux, and so we haven't even fully scoped the problem. It's hard to come up with solutions until you have the full problem identified, and as you may guess, it's a very big problem.
    This is from an interview with the lawyer on SCOs side. Full article at computerworld
    At this rate, SCO with have claims on the whole Linux Kernel by next week and Linus will become nothing but a corporate espionage spy that has been bribing IBM for the code the last 12 years

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    The SCO lawsuit in perspective....


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    I saw that linked somewhere else. (Might have been another thread here - can't remember). Laughed MAO, though.
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    Idd, that one went round the office the other day......very funny

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    I liked this one too:

    http://www.linuxworld.com/2003/0527.petreley-p2.html

    (Not as visually appealing, admittedly, but still quite funny)
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    Did SCO Violate the GPL?

    In an eWeek article by Peter Galli, there is scuttlebutt stating that SCO may have violated the GNU GPL. There are anon sources from SCO stating that some of their code were directly copied from the linux code. Click on the above link for the complete story.
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