realtek rtl8139/810x onboard nic
ive recently brought a p4 with the motherboard, the board is a Abit IS7-E, according to manual the onboard is a realtek rtl8139/810x fast ethernet nic, so i have been usin, as root ofcourse
this produces the error message
so i search G4L and here a bit i found some information, which has got me a bit confused
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: init_modules: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid 10 or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o.gz: insmod 8139too failed
for instance i found that i can find out if slackware can see my nic at all by doing lspci -v, but this produces the confusin information
this confuses me because as i can tell its sayin that it finds a 3Com card, or are they actually the same cards?
02:02.0 Ethernet Controllers: 3Com Corportation: Unknown device 1700 (rev 12)
Subsystem: Abit Computer Corp: Unknown device 100a
Flags: bus master, 66 Mhz, medium devsel. latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at f8000000(32bit, non-prefetchable) [size = 16k]
I/O Ports at 9000 [size = 256]
Capabilities:  Power Management version 2
Capabilities:  Vital Product Data
any suggestions or information about how to get this onboard RealTek RTL8139/810x to actually work
before i forget its a full install of slackware 9.1
They are definitely not the same chipset. Are you sure the mobo is revision E? Abit does use a 3com chipset on some versions of the IS7.
im sure that it is a IS7-E, accordin to the motherboard manual the IS7, IS7-M/E all use the onboard Realtek RTL8139 lan while the IS7-G uses a 3Com card
thanks for the reply
Yes, the G version uses the 3com; just checking.
Run the following command and look for any lines pertaining to eth0; what model of NIC is listed there?:
thanks for the reply, but dmesg doesnt show any reference to eth0
Anything at all in there that makes reference to either a Realtek or 3com NIC or module?
no nothin at all, i've attached the output from dmesg, but i cant see anything that makes reference to Realtek or 3Com
There's probably nothing there because the module isn't loading and the card isn't initializing.
Here's the odd thing- from lspci you got:
"Unknown device 1700 (rev 12)"
Well, "device 1700 rev 12" is the correct device ID for 3com's 3c940 gigabit NIC. You really might want to pop the case and had have a look at the motherboard...
If you do have the 3com, it will use either the sk98lin or 3c2000 driver.
ok i think this needs to be said, sometimes motherboard manufactuers change what they put on their motherboards, without updating the manuals that come with them, so for the latest information about your board check their website or look at the board
DMR your correct, it is a 3Com card, found the chip on the board when i opened it up, sorry for any misleadin info ive given you, i was only takin reference from the manual i got with the new board, the information i got from the NIC chip is:
also modprobe 3c2000 produced the error, Module cann't be located while modprobe sk98lin produced, the same error message as i first posted
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz: init_modules: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid 10 or IRQ parameters
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz: insmod sk98lin failed
Exactly. They've moved to the faster 3com chip (which they were using in the "G" version of that motherboard), but haven't updated their literature.
Originally posted by deathadder
ok i think this needs to be said, sometimes motherboard manufactuers change what they put on their motherboards, without updating the manuals that come with them...
Yeah, I don't think the 3c2000 module is a kernel built-in; I think it's a download from 3com.
Originally posted by deathadder
also modprobe 3c2000 produced the error, Module cann't be located
Hmm, possible resource conflict (IRQ or I/O address) as the error messages indicate?
Originally posted by deathadder
modprobe sk98lin produced, the same error message as i first posted
1. Turn off Plug-N-Play OS support in your BIOS if you haven't already. BIOS PNP is a chief culprit when it comes to resource conflicts in Linux.
2. What is the output from the following 2 commands?:
Did you try "modprobe \*" yet?
I've disabled all PnP in the BIOS, also ran the two commands you said produced the following output
0: 9842 XT-PIC timer
1: 184 XT-PIC keyboard
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
3: 0 XT-PIC ehci_hcd
5: 0 XT-PIC Intel ICH5
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
9: 0 XT-PIC usb-uhci
10: 0 XT-PIC usb-uhci
12: 61 XT-PIC usb-uhci, usb-uhci
14: 2671 XT-PIC ide0
15: 2 XT-PIC ide1
0000-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
0500-051f : Intel Corp. 82801EB SMBus Controller
0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
9000-90ff : PCI device 10b7:1700 (3Com Corporation)
9400-94ff : Adaptec AHA-7850
a000-a01f : Intel Corp. 82801EB USB
a000-a01f : usb-uhci
a400-a41f : Intel Corp. 82801EB USB
a400-a41f : usb-uhci
a800-a81f : Intel Corp. 82801EB USB
a800-a81f : usb-uhci
ac00-ac1f : Intel Corp. 82801EB USB
ac00-ac1f : usb-uhci
b400-b4ff : Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller
b800-b83f : Intel Corp. 82801EB AC'97 Audio Controller
f000-f00f : Intel Corp. 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controller
f000-f007 : ide0
f008-f00f : ide1
as you can see there 3Com Corporation there , i couldnt find the 3c2000 drivers on the 3Com site, im about to G4L to find a d/
tried it and nothing happened thanks for the suggestion though if youve got any other i'd love to hear em
thanks for your help so far DMR and adikgede
found a download for 3c2000 getting it at the moment, i'll repost when ive installed it
Last edited by deathadder; 10-13-2003 at 04:33 PM.
Yup, that's the 3com NIC at base address 9000, although I don't see it listed at IRQ 10 as lspci -v reported in your first post.
Well, let's see what happens with the 3c2000 driver....
thanks so much for your help DMR, finally got the nic up and running in the end i had to go to the 3com site download a windows exe, install it, copy a folder called linux from the install dir, untar the 3c2000.tar.gz file there change the dir do a make, make load then ifconfig eth0 up, only after all that did the bloody thing work
once again thanks for the help
It sounds like you had to jump through a hell of a lot hoops to get there, but if it worked in the end, it was worth it.
By the way, while I was doing more research on your problem I found that there are some "weirdnesses" with certain versions of the sk98lin driver and your particular card. Apparently you can get the right driver from Asus' website, but since the 3c2000 driver is working for you I wouldn't muck with it.
Oh, and as far as your appreciation for the help goes- thanks, it's the only pay we get around here!