Main "Hating Microsoft in a nutshell" thread

[nextbillgates]

Originally posted by Citadel
Not really. Infact I don't see much of MS products anywhere, but I'm sure that they are around...somewhere!

Most of your CD-ROMs and probably the ATM you use have Microsoft techology. The *nix distro you use probably has software and kernel modules that interface with MS technology. I'm sure that some of the websites you visit run on IIS, and I'm sure that some websites use Microsoft SQL Server as their database, and Exchange Server as their mail servers.

Avoiding MS is a lot harder than you think

[MighMos]

I like linux. I use windows. I just this weekend started dual booting my main machine. I havn't booted into windows yet.
But I havn't played any games other than Maelstrom and a demo of Tux Racer. While many good games are available for linux, most popular retail are available only for windows, and run much slower under wine. They would run better if written for linux, but they aren't. So I will soon be booting the other half of my machine.

Does Linux run better? Yes. Does it look better? Yes. Does it do what I want? Only when I know what I want, but windows rarely works anyway. Can it run almost anysoftware? Kinda. I just havn't had the time to set up wine, winex, or whatever.

I use both. Many do. I am happier with linux, but windows is still part of my life. I deal.

[terribleRobbo]

Originally posted by Citadel
...but at least Germany does and eventually all of Europe, and Australia.

Some America-style laws are probably in the process of being introduced here in Australia (eg. DMCA, et al)...
I think our PM is a bit of a brown-noser/arse-kisser regarding the good ol' US of A... Some say it's going to be 'US vs Them', but I think it's going to end up being 'Coalition of the Willing (AKA the Sheep) vs Them'.

*Sigh*

</Nonsensical rant about nothing in particular>

[Citadel]

I don't give Microsoft any credit at all for anything good, however they certainly damaged the computer industry a great deal. I give them credit for that. They sure know how to pollute the world with garbage operating systems. They brought back slavery, made it popular, but their plans for world domination fell short. They were successful villians, taking advantage of peoples ignorance, but there was no victory without freedom. And that's why they failed. They could not maintain the illusion of progress, once there was competition. Microsoft became obsolete because people took off the blindfolds.

[nextbillgates]

Originally posted by Citadel
I don't give Microsoft any credit at all for anything good, however they certainly damaged the computer industry a great deal. I give them credit for that. They sure know how to pollute the world with garbage operating systems. They brought back slavery, made it popular, but their plans for world domination fell short. They were successful villians, taking advantage of peoples ignorance, but there was no victory without freedom. And that's why they failed. They could not maintain the illusion of progress, once there was competition. Microsoft became obsolete because people took off the blindfolds.

Microsoft has a lock on the market. If the majority of people use their stuff, it can't possibly be obsolete

[Citadel]

It is obsolete now, and before long Microsoft users will be ridiculed as turkeys. I suppose that there are one or two niches that keep Microsoft alive, for example, games and the odd application, however Microsoft is only hanging on by a couple threads. They also couldn't find victory through being restrictive tyrants, it was impossible to find, so this lead to an unstable platform held together by ignorance that eventually self destructed as it melted away.

[myshkin]

this topic.....is stupid. thats all im going to say.

[nextbillgates]

Originally posted by Citadel
It is obsolete now, and before long Microsoft users will be ridiculed as turkeys. I suppose that there are one or two niches that keep Microsoft alive, for example, games and the odd application, however Microsoft is only hanging on by a couple threads. They also couldn't find victory through being restrictive tyrants, it was impossible to find, so this lead to an unstable platform held together by ignorance that eventually self destructed as it melted away.

Linux has been a viable contender for years, yet Windows still a total lock on the desktop market, and is quite competitive in the server market. I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but saying that MS is only haning on by a few threads is laughable.

[BaVinic]

Originally posted by Citadel
It is obsolete now, and before long Microsoft users will be ridiculed as turkeys. I suppose that there are one or two niches that keep Microsoft alive, for example, games and the odd application, however Microsoft is only hanging on by a couple threads. They also couldn't find victory through being restrictive tyrants, it was impossible to find, so this lead to an unstable platform held together by ignorance that eventually self destructed as it melted away.

you're hole attitude reminds me of the guy down the street from me, who thinks the CIA is pumping microwaves into his brain to spy on him. you need to get out more, see the real world, which by the way, Microsoft is a big part of. to think otherwise, is just foolish. MS is going nowhere soon.

and that my friend, is just the facts of life, be it good, or bad.

BaVinic

[Citadel]

It's obsolete! There is no reason to pay for the Microsoft platform. If any company shipped a distribution of Linux with three or four full scale games, I mean quality games, than all of the turkeys would fly over to Linux, and they would stay there. Microsoft is totally obsolete, but the question is, does Linux want to feed all of those turkeys?

[nextbillgates]

Linux could have every game made in the past 5 years and it would still be a small niche.

[Citadel]

I don't think that Linux is willing to lower it's standards in order to attract turkeys over to the platform because than there would be no difference between using Linux and using MS Windows. There would be too many programmers and we'd start to see Linux applications that work five times and on the sixth activation they blow up. That's the future of MS Windows, not Linux!

[El_Cu_Guy]

I just thought I'd take a look at this thread. Seeing as how sometimes the anti-Ms rants are just plain funny.

What do I see? Winmodems!?! Have you been living in a cave? Besides it wasn't Microsoft. It was US Robotics which created the first "WinModem". And no it wasn't because Ms told them to.

Back on topic - M$ IS CRAP! I now hate everything about it - trying to STOMP out eveyr other OS, every other competatent.

NOW you hate them for this? So you liked them for it at one time?

I mean Bill didn't even make DOS himself, he stole it off of his FRIEND. WTF?

Tim Paterson wasn't a friend of Bill Gates! Gates' friends were Paul Allen and Steve Ballmer. Paul Allen told Gates that he had heard about a guy at Seattle Computing that had written an operating system. The simple truth is Gates had never even met the guy. At least not until much later.

...winprinters....

Example please

And it goes without saying that Bill wants to annihalate any other OS out there, given half a chance Apple and Sun would do the same, no doubt.

Steve Jobs, as a young entrepreneur, had an interesting vision. Can you guess what is was?

There are legitimate MS bashings threads, and then there are completely ridiculous threads. This one is the latter.

It's rather boring too.

I fail to see how Microsoft is at fault because a company makes enough "modem" to interface with a phone line, writes the rest in software, and doesn't bother supporting anything other than Windows.

Gee let's start what will hpefully be a multi-billion dollar company. Who is our target audience? Windows lusers! Should we support other plaforms? Maybe later, just for ****s and giggles.

I will never touch a machine running the MS platform or MS products or even if it has a MS sticker on the box. Deal with it.

Yes all those "we run everything except Windows" companies are just clamouring for folks like you. I use Windows because I understand that in the real world people use Windows too. They may not like it but they deal with it. Then they go home and plop in front of the Mac or Linux box and enjoy.

Not really. Infact I don't see much of MS products anywhere, but I'm sure that they are around...somewhere!

Unfortunately that logic doesn't actually work. Just because I don't like and will never watch Jerry Springer doesn't mean he's not there.

Microsoft products became obsolete when the 2.4 kernel hit the market, and now that 2.6 is comming out, Microsoft products will start to dissapear for good.

Yeah I'm sure the guys over at Dell are just thinking, "hey, let's install an utterly obsolete OS on all our systems".

if not for MS, 90% of the technology we have today would not be available, at least not at a price we could afford.

Hindsight is 20/20. If not for MS I'm sure the PC wouldn't have done as well as it did. We'd be using Macs and I bet they'd be cheaper too.

It is obsolete now, and before long Microsoft users will be ridiculed as turkeys.

I've been listening to this rhetoric for years. It's always soon. Some of you people sound like religious nut-jobs.
Jesus is coming! Jesus is coming!
When?
Soon!

[Citadel]

Nobody is preventing you from thowing away your money on obsolete Microsoft products.

[psi42]

Originally posted by glussier
Even in windows, you can do copy stupidfile a:, so no need to open 2 explorer windows. In fact, most things can be done from the command line, if only, you knew how to do it.

Yes yes that's a good point. I guess I used a bad example.


I believe that most people would rather buy an inferior product if it is easier to use. Think about it, for the person without much computer experience, windows is easier to use. They turn on their computer and don't have to make any decisions. They click "write e-mail" and outlook opens for them. They aren't prompted to make any decisions...
Yes if you are willing to spend time learning Linux you will have a better, more stable OS. But most people do not want to spend more time learning about their computer than they have to.

~psi42