So.. who's attending the SCO road show?
Since they're going to stop over here in St.Louis on my day off, me and several friends are going to go ahead and attend. Of course, we'll try to have lots of rotten veggies ready :D
Seriously though, I do want to see what they say at the 9:30 "Company report card"....
SCO workers have to live too
Sure it probably wasn't too smart of an idea for SCO to give away code in the first place. Put yourself in a programmer working on SCO's shoes, management decides to just give your code away, make it open source. Then later on you lose your job because of it. Free code is extremely hurtful economically. When government steps in, usually the economy falters too. In the information age, technical companies although legally may not, technically have just as much power as government. Unless the entire commercial world were to stop using computers completely, this will remain the case. Do I use linux myself? Yes. Would I pay for Linux if I had to? Yes. Linux is a good product, but economically it's ruining the profession of a programmer. I predict we will see a dramatic decline in the need for programmers as open source becomes more popular. Who's going to want to hire a programmer to work on a free product? What programmer in their right mind is going to work for nothing? Why is it that it's ok for writers to copyright their books, or musicians their music, or artists their art, or even inventors their inventions, but it's not ok for a programmer to program closed source? Open source would be fair if royalties were paid for code. Am I a die hard Microsoft fan? Absolutely not? Microsoft is out of line with some of their technologies such as Windows Rights Management, and it's unfair for Microsoft to buy up all the companies it has. IT people keep this in mind - it's the programmers who give you your jobs - it's our code that needs to be installed/configured. If you put us out, you go down too, maybe a little later than we will, but you will nonetheless. Managers keep in mind, if you fire your coders due to open source alternatives, what will happen when your computer breaks or is replaced by a new platform? Who are you going to turn to port the code? Do you actually think after killing off a whole profession you'll be able to revive it years down the road? PEOPLE LET'S THINK BEFORE WE ARE CHEAP!!
Re: SCO workers have to live too
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Originally posted by macedawg
Sure it probably wasn't too smart of an idea for SCO to give away code in the first place. Put yourself in a programmer working on SCO's shoes, management decides to just give your code away, make it open source. Then later on you lose your job because of it. Free code is extremely hurtful economically. When government steps in, usually the economy falters too. In the information age, technical companies although legally may not, technically have just as much power as government. Unless the entire commercial world were to stop using computers completely, this will remain the case. Do I use linux myself? Yes. Would I pay for Linux if I had to? Yes. Linux is a good product, but economically it's ruining the profession of a programmer. I predict we will see a dramatic decline in the need for programmers as open source becomes more popular. Who's going to want to hire a programmer to work on a free product? What programmer in their right mind is going to work for nothing? Why is it that it's ok for writers to copyright their books, or musicians their music, or artists their art, or even inventors their inventions, but it's not ok for a programmer to program closed source? Open source would be fair if royalties were paid for code. Am I a die hard Microsoft fan? Absolutely not? Microsoft is out of line with some of their technologies such as Windows Rights Management, and it's unfair for Microsoft to buy up all the companies it has. IT people keep this in mind - it's the programmers who give you your jobs - it's our code that needs to be installed/configured. If you put us out, you go down too, maybe a little later than we will, but you will nonetheless. Managers keep in mind, if you fire your coders due to open source alternatives, what will happen when your computer breaks or is replaced by a new platform? Who are you going to turn to port the code? Do you actually think after killing off a whole profession you'll be able to revive it years down the road? PEOPLE LET'S THINK BEFORE WE ARE CHEAP!!
I think you need to read up on how open source and the various licenses that can be used by coders before you declare that free code is going to kill commercial software. I could say MS and or SCO are trying to do the same thing. :D and what do you mean by PEOPLE LET'S THINK BEFORE WE ARE CHEAP!!:confused:
Re: SCO workers have to live too
The post by macedawg was most interesting at first. I like many of you, have been curious about what impact SCO will have on open source. I thought the issue was cooling down a little until I read a article yesterday in my local newspaper. It mentioned strangely, that SCO was one of the top 75 places to work in America. With that being said, I am curious as to how one would feel pitty for employees of SCO, since it is apparently not a bad place to work. But regardless:
1. Who's going to want to hire a programmer to work on a free product? Well, anybody who uses a free product, makes a substantial amount of money off that free product has a very significant interest in that product. With that said, hiring somebody to make changes to that software, enhance, maintain, and support it would be desirable since so much rides on it.
2. Why is it that it's ok for writers to copyright their books, or musicians their music, or artists their art, or even inventors their inventions, but it's not ok for a programmer to program closed source? Nobody said it's not ok for people to keep their source closed. Open source is a choice. Not a requirement.
3. IT people keep this in mind - it's the programmers who give you your jobs - it's our code that needs to be installed/configured. In my opinion, you are mistaken. It is not the programmers who give IT professionals their jobs. It is the need of a service that gives people jobs. You sound as though you think it is all about the code, but it's not anymore. It's evolved beyond that. It's now about the need. It's beyond just software anymore. It's service as well.
4. PEOPLE LET'S THINK BEFORE WE ARE CHEAP!! It's not about being cheap. Open source is not growing only because it is free. That is appealing. But it just so happens that many of the open source offerings have functioned better than the closed. Now, exporting jobs to India, and laying off lots of US Workers that had those same jobs previously, thats cheap. Thats what your closed source company Microsoft recently did. That closed source didn't do much good there did it?
The closed source profit mongers are nervous. As they should be. Their time is almost up. Regardless, at the current pace, India and China will have more technology offerings to the world within this decade than the US. That is because companies are exporting all the work to those countries to increase profits. And this has nothing to do with open source. It is just plain greed.
Confused about the SCO Lawsuit? This should help you out.
I was really bored when I was supposed to be doing my English homework, so I grunted out this. It is a (hopefully) complete schematic of the SCO lawsuit.
IF YOU NOTICE ANY TYPOS, MISSING INFO, OR INCORRECT INFO, PLEASE POST IT! I WILL FIX IT!
the Schematic of the SCO Lawsuit