BROADBAND SNOB!!!
:p
Heheh.. J/K
edit: Out here on dial-up, that would be about 3.6Kbps down and 1.8Kbps up...
I wanna be a broadband snob!! :(
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BROADBAND SNOB!!!
:p
Heheh.. J/K
edit: Out here on dial-up, that would be about 3.6Kbps down and 1.8Kbps up...
I wanna be a broadband snob!! :(
LOL. Guilty as charged. :D
I hate you.... :cool:
I'm :just: out of range of FiOS, so I have to go with AT&T U-Verse. The problem is they put a 250GB cap (that is upload and download COMBINED), so I opted for a mid level 14Mbps. No point in getting their 24Mbps so I can get to the cap faster and have no Internet the end of the month. :mad::mad::mad:
Don't be hatin'... :rolleyes:
Note to self: Avoid AT&T
Not that I might ever upload and/or download 250GB of stuff...
but if I -need- to....
He||, out here it would be a stretch to even do 1GB of traffic in a month!
But, I did sign up for TechNet. My new job will involve Windows Server 2008 and Sharepoint and Exchange... etc. So, I'll have a few gigglebytes worth that I'll need to download for my home lab/network.
Oh wait... back over there in the land of shopping malls and automobiles.. you can download movies and stuff too! :eek:
I agree... the only problem is my only other option here is Time Warner which had two plans:
$30 for 768Kbps (THAT'S Kb!!!!) and a 5GB cap, or go up to $55 for 15Mbps with a 40GB cap.... :rolleyes:
AT&T is $30 for 14Mbps 250GB cap, and $50 24Mbps 250GB. Lesser of two evils, and who knows I may shell out the extra $20 after I monitor a couple months of usage.
You would be surprised how fast it adds up if you are online a lot. Remember, it is upstream and downstream combined (including protocol packets). So a 150MB file counts for more than 150MB of your limit after handshakes, acknowledgements, and packet resends, etc. There are also things like Netflix - stream a PAID for service of HD video and watch your ticker fly. Of course that is the point, ISP's fear services like Netflix will do just what it did for me - make me cancel my cable TV service. So to recoup cost, they limit how much you can use these new services.
I'm waiting for a class action lawsuit to come about in the near future. It's only a matter of time before their caps gets smaller and a lawyer sees easy money.
EDIT => Also, you may be limited on how many flavors of Linux you can download and try (assuming you DL the entire repos)... :p STOP SELLING BANDWIDTH YOU DON'T HAVE!
Honestly I don't see much point in having much faster than ~10 meg internet. Nothing I ever download maxes out my 18 meg that I have now, and even when I was on 5 meg it never felt particularly restrictive. I do wish I could get faster upload, but at least they just upgraded me to 3 meg up so it isn't quite as slow as it used to be.
Edit:
I'm sure they'd be happy to sell you a dedicated line...for about $200 a month. :p
They really blew it when they went to "unlimited" internet. Now everyone expects that, except that bandwidth doesn't actually work that way. You pay for the bandwidth you use in everything except home internet. So the 2% of users blowing through a terabyte of bandwidth in a month are costing them a fortune, a fortune which is then paid by the rest of us who aren't using massive amounts of bandwidth.
So basically I wish they'd just charge per gigabyte used instead of this stupid flat rate where the low bandwidth users subsidize the high bandwidth users. It would make a whole lot more sense.
Oh, and FWIW, if they didn't have an official cap, they'd have an unofficial cap and that would be worse because you wouldn't know what it is. Every ISP will drop you if you use too much bandwidth, whether they publicize a cap or not.
It really depends on each household's situation - mainly how many users (families will be hardest hit). For example, a single movie in HD from Netflix averages 5Mbps to not keep buffering mid-movie or dropping to pixel movie during low spikes (averages 4GB a movie). Another user (kid? wife?) jumps on Youtube and watches some HD clips or wants to watch a different Netflix movie and you need 10Mbps min which if you are capped at 10 (meaning you never quite reach it) you are liable to see hiccups in your movie.
Anything additional gets worse, say a program starts a auto-update, a kid jumps on a MMO, someone grabs a torrent, sibling wants to look at those high res NASA Hubble images, etc. It can add up fast for peak usage. Constant no, put you are paying for no slow downs at peak usage. For a single person, that does not mutlitask many high bandwidth usage programs, ~10Mbps may be fine.
Any heavy users or families that bandwidth cap is a stranglehold, and a total usage cap is absurd. I know before I moved I exceeded 250GB consistently (ISP at the time warned only, which I got the email every month). I might have to start "borrowing" neighbor wi-fi when I hit my cap. :p
Did I mention I have 56K dial-up!
:D
Ninja edit while I was posting... :eek:
I don't mind paying more for a high usage account, but they don't advertise or sell it that way. Why have tiered connections that all share the same cap? So you pay more to reach it faster? And it does not cost the ISP that much that they are losing out...
I'm sure there are MANY broadband accounts sold as a 'bundle' where the person checks email, shops at Christmas, and maybe the occasional Youtube link sent from a relative.
They didn't complain about high usage prior to services like Hulu, Netflix, etc. Now that they see many customers dropping cable service and taking the higher capacity broadband only - they know what is happening. $60+ cable bills are being dropped for $7 Netflix ones. Make the cap match the connection speed, and reasonable rate for exceeds and no problem. Say 30Mbps is the highest they can offer:
As it stands now its disproportionate. DSL has even a lower cap of 150GB, I only get 250GB for being on U-Verse. They also don't charge the overage as a meter, its in chunks of $10 per 50GB. So if you are on DSL with an expected $40 bill, but use 251GB for the month, your bill shoots to $70.Code:5 Mbps 100GB
10 Mbps 200GB
20 Mbps 400GB
30 Mbps Unlimited
Additionally, downstream is cheap compared to upstream. The excuse the last ISP gave me is they didn't want servers using up the expensive upstream. Fine, separate the two (they already do with much lower up speeds) and put a reasonable cap on that.
/end rant :D
Pfft... call me when you are on 1200 baud with the phone placed on the modem. :cool:
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/im...usticmodem.jpg
First time I ever saw a modem was one sorta like that. I think it was 300 baud, or less. It had rubbery cups you pushed the handset into. Well, like the one in the photo does, but it was only as wide as the cups.
The very first digitally transmitted text I ever saw....
I was at friends place and he had set up a communication with another guy. We were patiently waiting to see the magic words appear on the green screen monitor.. and then there it was.. he sent, "Stand back!"
We were in awe at the technology!
:D
Ah the good ole days... I never had two computers in the same room until almost college. I do remember dialing into billboards after school on monochromatic screens to chat with other geeky types and play networked text games. Shortly thereafter when I got a whole whopping 8-bit color, I remember a single image slowly loading on my screen, line by line, oh the anticipation of seeing the good parts... LOL
I don't have the child-like wonder anymore, but I do still get the random enjoyment along these lines...
http://dev.forums.justlinux.forums.r.../2012/02/1.png
EDIT => AND I'M STILL MAD AT MY SISTER FOR PICKING UP THE PHONE AND KILLING MY CONNECTION!!!!! haha
All this talk about Mega-bit connections with caps.... Here is a Giga-bit connection, uncapped. Now that is how to sell bandwidth! :D
Just past my first 1,000,000 milestone! :D:D:D
Still haven't cut the full farm on, its been too warm. I was only running the PS3, but decided to cut on my desktop i7 (seems to fold two at once, or at least every time it turns in it has 2 WU registered). The newest beta is giving out insane points, between 10-20k a pop at about 18-20 hours to process.
Farm and GPUs will probably wait until next fall/winter, but can't complain with 10k-30k PPD off of just one CPU and a PS3. :cool:
Looks like I'm gonna hit 20m today or tomorrow.
bs_texas... I'm glad you had some downtime. I needed it to pull a gap. You were gettin too close. I have a feeling I'm gonna have to make another upgrade once you get going again.
I hope your move is smooth.
Cheers
Mike
Your days are numbered my friend! ...well, until I get my first electric bill!! :cool:
As I've mentioned ad nauseam, my main issue has been the great difficulty in being able to upload results. Once I get away from this antiquated dial-up system, that problem will disappear.
Bennie
Edit: Oh, and nice milestone there, 20 Million!! je_fro keeps telling us that it's a good use of idle cycles. :)
Yeah, I think that's true for most people. However, I have a house with 4 very connected people in it that have: 3 Macbooks, 2 Thinkpads, 1 workstation, 1 Roku, 2 iPads, 4 cell phones with WiFi, 1 PogoPlug, and 1 Minecraft server that doubles as an offsite office backup server. I make damn good use of my bandwidth. And over the last couple weeks I've seeded almost 350GB of Linux distro torrents too. I aim to get what I pay for :DQuote:
Honestly I don't see much point in having much faster than ~10 meg internet. Nothing I ever download maxes out my 18 meg that I have now, and even when I was on 5 meg it never felt particularly restrictive.
Ranked 240!! Good work, eh? Up from 247 not long ago!
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=36480
Move in date is 30 April. So... I should be back in May!
I lost a non-mirrored hard drive in my main box so I won't be folding for a bit until I can get it replaced. :(
So... I got one of my computers back the other day. I'm having stuff sent to the office since I don't have the house yet. It's a tiny little computer I built with a SilverStone SG05, a core i7-2600K, 8 gigglebytes of memory, and an EVGA GTX560 Ti. Opened up the box and the CPU cooler was flopping around in the case. Fortunately I had a screw driver. ;-) I took the whole thing apart, popped the cooler back into position (later I'll probably have to put some more thermal goo in there. I'm a little hesitant to start up a CPU client, but might try it anyway!) and then put it back together. Started right up. The hotel has good, fast wireless internet access.. NO MORE 56K DIAL-UP!! woo hoo!! :p
Already back up to 5th place with just one GPU client running. :cool:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=36480
Edit: Ok, also running a CPU client now. Hope that goes smoothly.
While I'm happy for you, just shows how far our team has degraded. Think if we had 15+ members pushing at least 10k PPD? I had to shut down my i7 this last week, fried relay in my AC unit (and it runs hot when ambient temp is proper), so was just PS3 folding. Just replaced it last night so I'll cut the i7 back on. Don't know if I'm going to bother with the virtual host GPU folding, its not cold anymore and that electric bill is going to start climbing. The i7 alone adds about $12-$15 to my bill.
Did you have fun with the tornados? The one that touched near Cooper and Sublett is one block from my house. It was the smaller of the series tho (only trashed 3 houses).
Wow... that's a big chunk of change for running an i7. Hey, it's charitable. I guess that could be written off your taxes, eh?
After paying $42,000 for a couple gallons of gas, I may have to re-evaluate the cost of the folding when I get moved and setup. I need me one of them there Mr. Fusion's... :rolleyes:
I was in Richardson for the storms. We were just in the gap. The worst weather was west and east of my location. We just had dark skies and heavy rain. I'm glad no hail pounded my new car! ..or the roof of the house I'm buying.
Yeah, I figured out once that it costs me around $7 a month to fold on my Q6600. But as long as it's folding I don't feel bad leaving it on 24/7, so I figure it balances out in time not spent waiting for it to boot. :)
Yea some cars didn't fair well...
http://dev.forums.justlinux.forums.r.../2012/04/2.jpg
Luckily no damage to mine. i7 drains a crap ton, but to be fair its partly the 1k power supply, heavy duty UPS, and SLI Nvidia cards eating up electrons even idle.
Million dollar idea....
Popup, flexible, kevlar car cover that can be deployed and un-deployed like a convertible top or an air bag.
I'd prefer deflector shields residing 1nm over the surface. Make one for personal use too. :cool:
Oh, and aren't we supposed to have jetpacks by now?
Actually, it's not as bleak as it might appear. Back on the team page, when I was out in 56K dial-up land, our combined
Points
24hr Avg
was hovering around 70,000 points on good days when I had a useable connection. Today that Avg is 106,000. And my daily points are still half what they were.
Every little bit helps, eh?
So..............
I have 2 computers, one laptop, and one PS3 folding again.
folding.extemeoverclocking.com tells me I hit about 60,000 points in the last 24 hours.
I like broadband. :D
Hey!
We're up to #236 in the standings!
Anybody else paying attention?
:D
you mean 235 ;)
My little house server is chugging along 24x7. Built from spare parts 4 years ago.
AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
1GB of memory
File server for my home office. (samba & NFS)
SqueezeBox server for house music system.
Folds proteins with every spare cycle.
It's got me all the way up to number 20.
Every little bit helps, right?
So, I just passed a Million points for the month! And I don't even have half my computers set up.
:cool:
And, I haven't received my first electric bill yet either.
:o
That will be what ultimately throttles you, I believe. Since we started averaging over 90 degrees daily, I've shut off all folding on my heavy lifters. I'm down to two boxes now - one is an atom cpu on my netbook, it does the small 600 pt units, but it can do a 2-3 a day. The other chunks out a ~8kish every day or two - but its on a 250W power supply that is no where near maxed.
Not only does it become a matter of direct cost (kilowatt hours), but heat dissipation causing your A/C to work harder too. It is 15 degrees hotter in the back room if I leave the i7 folding in the summer (add GPUs and it shuts down from overheating) - which sucks when I want to actually use the PC. Once fall hits I'll turn them back on. Can we skip this summer and go straight to winter, please? :(
Your profile says you're in New Orleans. That's too close to Texas you see.
In Texas... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer... It's Winter... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer... it's Summer...
Lots of "It's Summer's" to go before we get to an "It's Winter"!
:rolleyes:
My first electric bill was just over $100. I expect a lot more on the next one. I adjusted the A/C output vents upstairs to almost all the way off except in the computer room. I have that A/C set to 74 degrees. Downstairs the A/C is set at 75 degrees.
Hey... just went over 1.6 million points for May. Let's see, I think I have 4 quad-core computers, 2 laptops (1 dual core), and one PS3 running right now. I have 4 or 5 more computers that are still boxed up.
Yea never updated my profile, but moved to DFW area a few months ago for a new job. Weather is very similar, just thankfully it seems humidity is a tad lower here. NOLA was the same though, year round heat with winter usually being a solid week long with sporadic "cold" days.
Interesting. The GPU client had Failed on this computer. I restarted the whole thing. When it came back up I saw this:
Edit: Oh, ok. A whimsical (?) take on GROMACS.Code:00:44:58:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 94420 out of 250000 steps (37%)
00:44:59:WU00:FS00:0x15:Tpr hash 00/wudata_01.tpr: 3099159455 3127419197 4218797186 3957657556 1546794494
00:44:59:WU00:FS00:0x15:GPU device info: vendor=0 device=0 name=<NA> match=0
00:44:59:WU00:FS00:0x15:Working on Good ROcking Metal Altar for Chronical Sinners
00:44:59:WU00:FS00:0x15:Client config unavailable.
00:44:59:WU00:FS00:0x15:Starting GUI Server
00:45:15:WU01:FS01:0xa4:Completed 95000 out of 250000 steps (38%)
00:46:05:WU00:FS00:0x15:Setting checkpoint frequency: 500000
00:46:05:WU00:FS00:0x15:Completed 3 out of 50000000 steps (0%).
I laughed, though they need to remove the 'al' on Chronic. :cool:
Had to Google, but seems the proper is: GROningen MAchine for Chemical Simulations.