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  1. #16
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    When I was 13, I didn't give a hoot about computers, I had discovered females, got my first prolonged kiss and for the next 5 years, chased females and felt sorry for the guys who stayed at home with only a computer to keep them company. Now here I am chasing computers and feeling sorry for the guys who have only a female to keep them company.
    Computer+female+remote control=paradise.
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    what has age got to do with expertise?

    this is funny.

    Anyway, when I was 9, my school still had macs, but pentium 1~2 was the newest in town.
    Come under the reign of the Idiot King...
    Come to me ... I love linux!

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    Originally posted by XiaoKJ
    what has age got to do with expertise?

    this is funny.

    Anyway, when I was 9, my school still had macs, but pentium 1~2 was the newest in town.
    Not expertise, but experiance...there is a small difference.

    But even though I have been using computers for over 20 years does NOT mean I'm an expert...just that I've seen a lot

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    This is cool.

    However, my kids at the ripe old ages of 4 (my son) and 2 (my daughter) had favorite games in both windows and linux, and knew the difference! (mainly it was my son that chose, btw)

    When they wanted to play on my computer my question was always the same, "Windows or linux?" And they made the choice depending upon whether they wanted to play one of the Disney Story Books (didn't know about wine at the time), or one of the kids games that I had installed (lletters, same gnome, etc...).
    Knute

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    What y'all wanna do?
    Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers
    Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers?
    9 to 5, chillin' at Hewlett Packard?
    Workin' at a desk with a dumb little placard?
    Yeah, payin' the bills with my mad programming skills
    Defraggin' my hard drive for thrills
    I got me a hundred gigabytes of RAM
    I never feed trolls and I don't read spam
    Installed a T1 line in my house
    Always at my PC, double-clickin' on my mizouse
    Upgrade my system at least twice a day
    I'm strictly plug-and-play, I ain't afraid of Y2K
    I'm down with Bill Gates, I call him "Money" for short
    I phone him up at home and I make him do my tech support
    It's all about the Pentiums, what?
    You've gotta be the dumbest newbie I've ever seen
    You've got white-out all over your screen
    You think your Commodore 64 is really neato
    What kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?
    You're usin' a 286? Don't make me laugh
    Your Windows boots up in what, a day and a half?
    You could back up your whole hard drive on a floppy diskette
    You're the biggest joke on the Internet
    Your database is a disaster
    You're waxin' your modem, tryin' to make it go faster
    Hey fella, I bet you're still livin' in your parents' cellar
    Downloadin' pictures of Sarah Michelle Gellar
    And postin' "Me too!" like some brain-dead AOL-er
    I should do the world a favor and cap you like Old Yeller
    You're just about as useless as jpegs to Hellen Keller

    Uh, uh, loggin' in now
    Wanna run wit my crew, hah?
    Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?
    They call me the king of the spreadsheets
    Got 'em printed out on my bedsheets
    My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
    But it was obsolete before I opened the box
    You say you've had your desktop for over a week?
    Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique
    Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great
    If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight
    My digital media is write-protected
    Every file inspected, no viruses detected
    I beta tested every operation system
    Gave props to some, and others? I dissed 'em
    While your computer's crashin', mine's multitaskin'
    It does all my work without me even askin'
    Got a flat-screen monitor forty inches wide wide
    I believe that your says "Etch-A-Sketch" on the side
    In a 32-bit world, you're a 2-bit user
    You've got your own newsgroup, "alt.total-loser"
    Your motherboard melts when you try to send a fax
    Where'd you get your CPU, in a box of Cracker Jacks?
    Play me online? Well, you know that I'll beat you
    If I ever meet you I'll control-alt-delete you
    What? What? What? What? What?


    For some reason reading this topic reminded me of that song.
    Last edited by templest; 02-04-2005 at 02:56 PM.
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    Originally posted by Icarus
    But even though I have been using computers for over 20 years does NOT mean I'm an expert...just that I've seen a lot
    Not that many years in my case, but that's exactly how I feel.

    Hard Candy, what do you use the remote control for - the computer or the female? Well, I hope, it's the first, the second would be boring.

    "What can be said at all can be said clearly, and what we cannot talk about we must pass over in silence."

    Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus by Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889-1951)

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    Originally posted by templest
    What y'all wanna do?
    Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers
    Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers?
    9 to 5, chillin' at Hewlett Packard?
    Workin' at a desk with a dumb little placard?
    Yeah, payin' the bills with my mad programming skills
    Defraggin' my hard drive for thrills
    I got me a hundred gigabytes of RAM
    I never feed trolls and I don't read spam
    Installed a T1 line in my house
    Always at my PC, double-clickin' on my mizouse
    Upgrade my system at least twice a day
    I'm strictly plug-and-play, I ain't afraid of Y2K
    I'm down with Bill Gates, I call him "Money" for short
    I phone him up at home and I make him do my tech support
    It's all about the Pentiums, what?
    You've gotta be the dumbest newbie I've ever seen
    You've got white-out all over your screen
    You think your Commodore 64 is really neato
    What kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?
    You're usin' a 286? Don't make me laugh
    Your Windows boots up in what, a day and a half?
    You could back up your whole hard drive on a floppy diskette
    You're the biggest joke on the Internet
    Your database is a disaster
    You're waxin' your modem, tryin' to make it go faster
    Hey fella, I bet you're still livin' in your parents' cellar
    Downloadin' pictures of Sarah Michelle Gellar
    And postin' "Me too!" like some brain-dead AOL-er
    I should do the world a favor and cap you like Old Yeller
    You're just about as useless as jpegs to Hellen Keller

    Uh, uh, loggin' in now
    Wanna run wit my crew, hah?
    Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?
    They call me the king of the spreadsheets
    Got 'em printed out on my bedsheets
    My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
    But it was obsolete before I opened the box
    You say you've had your desktop for over a week?
    Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique
    Your laptop is a month old? Well that's great
    If you could use a nice, heavy paperweight
    My digital media is write-protected
    Every file inspected, no viruses detected
    I beta tested every operation system
    Gave props to some, and others? I dissed 'em
    While your computer's crashin', mine's multitaskin'
    It does all my work without me even askin'
    Got a flat-screen monitor forty inches wide wide
    I believe that your says "Etch-A-Sketch" on the side
    In a 32-bit world, you're a 2-bit user
    You've got your own newsgroup, "alt.total-loser"
    Your motherboard melts when you try to send a fax
    Where'd you get your CPU, in a box of Cracker Jacks?
    Play me online? Well, you know that I'll beat you
    If I ever meet you I'll control-alt-delete you
    What? What? What? What? What?


    For some reason reading this topic reminded me of that song.
    Good song

    The Linux Kid
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    Originally posted by The Linux Kid
    Good song

    The Linux Kid
    From Weird Al Yankovic, of course.

    http://www.weirdal.com/

    "What can be said at all can be said clearly, and what we cannot talk about we must pass over in silence."

    Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus by Ludwig Wittgenstein (1889-1951)

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    I'm not a real oldie, like irlandes, but when I was 13, we were still using chisels and stone tablets.

    Man... actually, that was 1967. I can't remember if we even had electricity back then....
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    I thought I made a mistake once, but, of course, I was mistaken.

  10. #25
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    Hey, if we're going for youngest Linux guru...
    Well, I started using Red Hat when I was seven, and currently (fourteen) I have my own Linux distro
    Registered Linux User #325947

    Check out Feather Linux, my distro.
    (Yes, it's shameless self promotion, deal with it )

  11. #26
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    Youth and computers

    When my son Andrew was 18 months old, I had him sit in his high-chair next to me while using AutoCAD (R14). He kept reaching for the keyboard. I gave him his own keyboard and mouse on his high-chair table. He tried it, looked at my screen and discovered that his tools did nothing! So, he pushed them off his little table and reached again for mine. I then started keeping him in my lap while using CAD. At age two, when I purchased AutoCAD 2000, his favorite thing to do was to play the instructional CD. By time he was 3, I would ask him for help! Really! He memorized the entire instructional CD! If I could not remember a certain step, he would be right there to help me out. He would repeat the associated instructions word for word, as detailed in the instructional CD. Simply amazing! By age 8 (now) he is in second grade and reads on a college level. He uses my AutoCAD 2004, generating complex polygons. When it comes to Linux, which I just got into (SUSE 9.2) he prefers it over Windblows. When he boots his computer up in the morning, he always chooses Linux.
    Kids are amazing! My youngest son Mark, at age 2, would "help" me in the lab. He would watch me develop mechanical devices. He learned to use the hand tools. He payed attention so well, he took apart the baby gate with a screwdriver to get into the kitchen and all the goodies. LOL... kids are great! I eventually had to get him to stop taking all of our stuff apart. Sigh.. if only MY learning curve is still as sharp as theirs! LOL.. One day I went to file a sharp edge with a hand file. Well, Mark, in his infinite wisdom had determined at some earlier moment, that my files had sharp edges on them and thus needed to be smoothed. He took my dremel with the grinding stone and ground all the teeth off of all of my files! Smart boy! The idea was right... but.. my files? Ah, they needed replacing anyway!
    Now, Andrew is the teachers computer assistant (helping the teacher learn to use them better). Mark is my lab assistant. It really DOES help a child to get them started in the tech world at an early age. Think about the old days, when children watched their parents run their daily business. By time the kids were five or so, they were actively helping out in the business. I think most modern children however are deprived of such learning abilities, simply because their daily learning is being replaced by cartoons on the TV.
    It is not that children just want to go running around playing. Much of their time is spent watching us, their parents and what WE are doing. Let them be a part of what we are doing. After all, what cute thing do children say when they see us doing things? "Dad, I want to be just like you". Well, let them! Don't just tell them "go away and stop bothering me!" NO NO NO! Let them do what you are doing! Always!
    I have learned by watching my own children, that technical "interests" are NOT learned! They are born with their interests pre-installed. Such can be seen in the differences between Andrew and Mark. Andrew is computer oriented and Mark is mechanical. They each have half of what I do. I will be promoting each of their skills and teaching them to work together. Andrew can do software and computer use and Mark can be the engineer that designs the devices. Can you imagine what they can do together when they get older?
    To the young girl and Linux, "Way to go!".

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