Do I or don't I have kdelibs installed?

[snork2]

3 days ago, I upgraded from Mandrake 10.0 to Mandriva 2006. Everything went fine, without any errors. I'm still a little new on Linux.

I recently tried to install a product and in the ./configure, it came up with the message that:

checking for KDE... libraries /usr/lib, headers /usr/include
checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no
configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first.

When I run the following, I get this:

<ROOT>:/home/jeff/downloads/kdar-2.0.7# rpm -q kdelibs
package kdelibs is not installed
<ROOT>:/home/jeff/downloads/kdar-2.0.7# urpmi kdelibs
The package(s) are already installed
The following package names were assumed: libkdecore4

So, I'm a little confused. I have updated my urpmi database. updated all urpmi sources, etc.

The package I'm trying to install says that I don't have kdelibs installed. RPM also doesn't think I have them installed. URPMI says they are already installed.

Why the contradiction and does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do to find out what is going on and what I need to do to correct this?

Thanks

[stumbles]

Well as your first rpm query indicates, you need to install kdelibs. They are probably referring to the devel libs. As KDE will definitely not run without kdelibs. So try "urpmi kdelibs-devel" or whatever Mandriva calls them.

Also once you get that issue squared away you will no doubt find there will be other devel packages that need installing.

[Choozo]

Use "rpm -qa | grep kde" to see all kde packages installed.

(Moving to software)

[snork2]

Thanks for the quick replies. I really appreciate them.

stumbles;

URPMI also shows that I have the kde-dev libs installed. I had them installed with 10.0, so the upgrade installed the upgraded ones. See listing below.

Choozo;

Here's the output. Again, I'm not an expert, but it looks like I have the kdelibs and associated stuff (dev) already installed. Of course, doesn't that query output come from the '/var/cache/urpmi/rpms' directory or the database, which either could be wrong?

If you see anything I may be missing, please let me know.

Also, why is rpm and the ./configure programs (of the package I tried to install) both tell me that it isn't installed and urpmi tells me that it is installed? Something is messed up or corrupted. Any idea how to determine or fix the problem?

rpm -qa | grep kde
kdebase-3.4.2-55mdk
libkdegames1-3.4.2-6mdk
libkdegraphics0-kuickshow-3.4.2-11mdk
libkdevelop3-devel-3.0.0-6mdk
kdetoys-3.4.2-4mdk
galaxy-kde-kwin-1.0.2-19mdk
libkdenetwork2-kopete-3.4.2-16mdk
kdeaddons-atlantik-3.4.2-10mdk
kdeutils-kcalc-3.4.2-5mdk
kdebase-progs-3.4.2-55mdk
kdepim-kmail-3.4.2-13mdk
kdepim-knode-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdenetwork2-common-3.4.2-16mdk
libkdepim2-kontact-3.4.2-13mdk
kdeartwork-3.4.2-3mdk
kdegraphics-ksnapshot-3.4.2-11mdk
libkdepim2-kpilot-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdetoys1-devel-3.2-4mdk
libkdepim2-knode-3.4.2-13mdk
kdepim-kaddressbook-3.4.2-13mdk
mandriva-kde-config-file-2006-10mdk
kdenetwork-kdict-3.4.2-16mdk
libkdebase4-konsole-3.4.2-55mdk
kdemultimedia-kmid-3.4.2-10mdk
libkdeedu1-devel-3.2-8mdk
libkdegraphics0-common-3.4.2-11mdk
libkdemultimedia1-kscd-3.4.2-10mdk
kdegraphics-common-3.4.2-11mdk
kdeutils-kdepasswd-3.4.2-5mdk
kdemultimedia-kmix-3.4.2-10mdk
libkdepim2-common-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdecore4-devel-3.4.2-31mdk
libkdeutils1-ark-3.4.2-5mdk
kdeutils-common-3.4.2-5mdk
kdeaddons-searchbar-3.4.2-10mdk
kde-i18n-en_GB-3.4.2-11mdk
kdebase-servicemenu-2006-2mdk
kdegraphics-kfax-3.4.2-11mdk
kdevelop-3.0.0-6mdk
libkdesdk1-3.2-9mdk
kdesdk-3.2-9mdk
libkdecore4-3.4.2-31mdk
mandriva-create-kde-mdk-menu-2006-2mdk
kdepim-korganizer-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdegraphics0-kghostview-3.4.2-11mdk
kdegraphics-kghostview-3.4.2-11mdk
libkdebase4-devel-3.2-70mdk
kdesdk-cervisia-3.2-9mdk
libkdeutils1-common-3.4.2-5mdk
kdebase-kcontrol-nsplugins-3.4.2-55mdk
kdenetwork-kopete-3.4.2-16mdk
kdebase-kate-3.4.2-55mdk
kdepim-3.2-25mdk
kdebase-common-3.4.2-55mdk
kdemultimedia-kmidi-3.4.2-10mdk
kdelibs-common-3.4.2-31mdk
libkdepim2-korganizer-3.4.2-13mdk
kdepim-karm-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdebase4-3.4.2-55mdk
libkdeaddons1-3.4.2-10mdk
kdegames-3.4.2-6mdk
kdeutils-kcharselect-3.4.2-5mdk
kdebase-konsole-3.4.2-55mdk
kdepim-common-3.4.2-13mdk
kdemultimedia-kscd-3.4.2-10mdk
kdemultimedia-krec-3.3.0-3thac
libkdevelop3-3.0.0-6mdk
kdemultimedia-kaudiocreator-3.4.2-10mdk
kdebase-kdm-config-file-3.4.2-55mdk
kdeartwork-kde-classic-3.4.2-3mdk
kdeutils-kedit-3.4.2-5mdk
libkdeaddons1-konqimagegallery-3.4.2-10mdk
libkdeutils1-kedit-3.4.2-5mdk
kdeaddons-konqimagegallery-3.4.2-10mdk
kdepim-korn-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdeutils1-kcalc-3.4.2-5mdk
libkdemultimedia1-krec-3.3.0-3thac
kdeedu-3.2-8mdk
kdebase-nsplugins-3.4.2-55mdk
kdebase-kmenuedit-3.4.2-55mdk
galaxy-kde-1.0.2-19mdk
kdeutils-ark-3.4.2-5mdk
kdenlive-0.2.4-1mdk
libkdepim2-kaddressbook-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdepim2-akregator-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdegraphics0-kooka-3.4.2-11mdk
libkdebase4-kate-3.4.2-55mdk
libkdepim2-kmail-3.4.2-13mdk
kdepim-kontact-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdemultimedia1-common-3.4.2-10mdk
libkdetoys1-kweather-3.4.2-4mdk
kdebase-kdm-3.4.2-55mdk
libkdemultimedia1-kmix-3.4.2-10mdk
kdebase-kdeprintfax-3.4.2-55mdk
kdegraphics-kuickshow-3.4.2-11mdk
kdenetwork-common-3.4.2-16mdk
libkdesdk1-devel-3.2-9mdk
libkdegames1-devel-3.2-7mdk
kdepim-knotes-3.4.2-13mdk
kdemultimedia-kaboodle-3.3.0-3thac
libkdemultimedia1-kaboodle-3.3.0-3thac
libkdebase4-kmenuedit-3.4.2-55mdk
kdemultimedia-common-3.4.2-10mdk
kdepim-akregator-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdesdk1-cervisia-3.2-9mdk
kdeutils-kfloppy-3.4.2-5mdk
libkdepim2-ktnef-3.4.2-13mdk
kdetoys-kweather-3.4.2-4mdk
kdegraphics-kooka-3.4.2-11mdk
kdepim-kpilot-3.4.2-13mdk
libkdeedu1-3.2-8mdk

[Choozo]

Well, installing from source may quite possibly require you to set the $KDEDIR (or $KDE_DIR?) environment variable.

Have a look into the INSTALL or README file located in the source directory of the app you are trying to compile and install.

[snork2]

Choozo,

You're right. The INSTALL file says this:

Configure the build process

Default prefix is $KDEDIR. Make sure your KDEDIR is set.
Use --prefix=$HOME/.kde to install in
your local kde directory.

This, to me is a little confusing. It looks like it's using the $KDEDIR to determinie where to install it, not looking for kdelibs.


When I do a "printenv | grep KDE", the only things that come up are:

KDE_MULTIHEAD=false
KDE_FULL_SESSION=true
DESKTOP_SESSION=01KDE
KDEDIRS=/usr/local/kde:/usr

So, it looks like $KDEDIR is set properly.


The Library path looks correct: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/qt/lib:/usr/local/kde:/home/jeff/.local/lib

There's a lot of files there, too many to list here (usr/local/kde/lib).

I'm not so much concerned about getting this package installed (KDAR) as I am in finding out why the discrepency in reporting of the rpm and urpmi programs. Of course, I greatly appreciate all the feedback and help in trying to solve this situation and if it gets the program installed properly, then great, but I will still wonder what is happening with the different answers I'm getting from rpm and urpmi. It seems like urmpi is reporting properly and rpm and the ./configure program are not, in this case.

If it's any help, this looks like the code in the configure program that is giving the error:

echo "$as_me:$LINENO: result: $kde_cv_uic_plugins" >&5
echo "${ECHO_T}$kde_cv_uic_plugins" >&6
if test "$kde_cv_uic_plugins" != yes; then
{ { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: error: you need to install kdelibs first." >&5
echo "$as_me: error: you need to install kdelibs first." >&2;}
{ (exit 1); exit 1; }; }

To me, it looks like it looking for some particular kde plugin. I have no clue beyond this. I googled, but the results were way too tecnical for me.

Any help would, of course be very much appreciated.

[Choozo]

Googling for KDAR turned up a viewer/player for a Christian radio channel, and the KDE Disk Archiver.
I'm venturing a guess here that its the Disk Archiver you are tyrying to install? :-)

If so, this page: http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/kdar/ contain some info about required libraries, etc.

[snork2]

Thanks for the research.

Everything I read on that link seems to be for FreeBSD, not Linux. I looked at almost every link I could find on that page, but there didn't seem to be any information about required libraries for Linux. All the kde libraries mentioned are for FreeBSD, not Linux.

Yes, that is the package I'm trying to install. It is version 2.0.7, and everything on the actual website seems to imply that it should install very simply under Linux/KDE.

They have a mailing list, but I'm a little embarrassed to ask why I'm getting conflicting reports on whether or not I have kdelibs installed or not. I first want to find out (yes, I'm researching myself) if I have the kdelibs installed, which I think I do. I'm currently checking if Mandriva installs them in the 'normal' place.

This is taking way too much of my time and in my opinion is one reason why Linux hasn't taken over the desktop from MS. I'm not alone on this when I say that installing packages and keeping your particulare distro up to date is just too complicated for the average windoze user.

However, my curiosity takes over in a case like this and I won't give up until I figure this out.

[Choozo]

However, my curiosity takes over in a case like this and I won't give up until I figure this out.

That's one of the reasons not all Windows 'converts' throw in the towel after a couple of hours. Go for it