A simple suggestion for the overwhelmed newbie

[brezzsent]

Success is must for a newbie to keep coming back. So I would recommend Ubuntu and Mepis. The first has the Gnome DE and the second comes with KDE. These two will give a newcommer to Linux a taste of what one can do. They just work. Later, when one feels comfortable jump on the Debian proper band wagon.

[Moodesburn1977]

hi im glad to be in the forum it is my first time

[cardimaccarti]

You're onto something cool for newbies

Trying live CDs with different desktop environments like Gnome and KDE is a smart move. It's all about finding what clicks for us.
Plus, congrats on your 1000th post milestone
Linux journey's all about the adventure as I think

[Goldwinpie]

brezzsent thank you very much for the advice. I'll try to install Ubuntu

[brezzsent]

Success is must for a newbie to keep coming back. So I would recommend Ubuntu and Mepis.




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[Korealbophy]

What specific aspects of Ubuntu and Mepis do you believe make them suitable choices for newcomers to Linux, and how do these distributions contribute to a successful introduction to the Linux environment?

As a newcomer to the forum, what motivated you to join, and do you have any specific goals or interests related to the Linux community?

Congratulations on reaching the 1000th post milestone! How has your Linux journey been, and what aspects of the adventure do you find most engaging or challenging?

[Demanding Truth]

What aspects of the adventure do you find most engaging or challenging?

That would be: 'Putting up with and dealing with 'Super Cookies'...
Super Cookies are probably responsible for most of the intrusive hacky grief on the internet..
Super Cookies are like 'loaded guns in the hands of entitled drugged-out elitist spoiled brat kiddies'...
Would be nice if there was an 'SCS', a 'super cookie shredder', a cookie firewall program that filters, dismantles, and attaches a 'nannybot' to super cookies on their way in, and rips out its sticky parts, and quarantines those nasty little elitist anarchistic corporate-evil demons in a 'cookie-jar toilet', copying only its good qualities and useful functions and features of the cookie, sending a cleansed cookie through the maze, while adding a self-destruct mechanism to the cookie the moment it starts to work against the OS, converting it into a simple benign cookie, no longer an overly active oozing cancerous infection of hell-world's moralless mannerless manipulative insatiable money-sucking life-eating corporate-greed, feeding upon us like how wild african dogs feast on their alive prey... (YouTube surf: 'wild african dogs eating their prey alive', to get a sense and feel of what the soulless cannibal elitist Greeds are doing to our Internet, our Linux World, our Lives.. To them everything that tastes good is their food, especially us.. Youtube surf 'china human meat', and 'grab hags')..

Seems we need a serious cookie firewall between the internet and our computers, a secondary OS in front of the browser.. I'm trying a secondary scrapper computer that's always on and net connected without any security in it, to bait the bullies into attacking that one, not my netbook.. We need something that filters and processes the internet big time, essentially chopping off the kraken beast's tentacles as they reach to try to cling to the browser and OS before those vile little turds get their claws and sucker-tubes into the OS..
Then the internet would be less predatory, less intrusive, less manipulative, less ambushive, less stealing, less costly, less criminal, less evil, less offensive, less irritating, less war, less bullying, less inquisition, less hell... Evil attacks good.. That's what evil does as its way of life and living.. Killing good is what evil must do to exist and be fulfilled.. Linux is good, honorable, honest, respectable, and free, is why Linux is being attacked, stolen, cashed-in, and destroyed by money-hungry elitist greeds... The elitist's and evil's motto is 'nothing in life is free'... Read the Linux Philosophy.. Evil makes and enforces the laws.. To evil, Linux is immoral and illegal because it's free, loving, smooth functional, honorable, and kind... Evil devours good like how african wild dogs eat their prey alive, like how a rain storm destroys a cardboard box... Don't YouTube surf 'african wild dogs eating their prey alive, you'll wish you hadn't...

[Kin_G]

A simple suggestion? Wow.

Let's try simple.

Don't stop.

I tried every Linux I could back when Windows 10 and Yosemite for OSX was released. I even dual booted Windows, OSX and a few Linux distros.

I ended up with straight Arch as my choice to actually start. Because I was tired of not knowing what how why. Even though I still didn't know how what or why. I had a great running OS, modded nvidia drivers and sound porting, changed my window managers a few times. So I broke it a lot. But why I fell inlove with Arch. No matter what I was doing. I could fix it.

I recently tried exceptionally hard to do production on Windows 11. But I couldn't bare all the garbage anymore. The horrific way of handling a computer, literally, it is not great at buffering, writes things too many times to too many places for no reason, and it just leaves them there. It broke itself, constantly, and fixing it is nigh impossible in comparison. A lot of the time I really couldn't fix it actually.

Now I do not suggest that anyone does anything like that. But I went through my options.

This time I looked at Distro's as a whole, support etc if any, performance etc. I went with CachyOS and am very happy. First install was flawless, I went with KDE and a simple 80gb root on nvme with btrfs, but btrfs... IMO, is going to destroy my drives with what it does. XFS seems great for me. I can't say that the instructions align exactly with the installs. And I can't say that you can install any DE/WM on their list, because my install had failed. But KDE/GNOME/XFCE worked. LXQT did not. I can't say this will be the same for everyone. Just my experience.

Was impressed when I tried WINE. Ran some crazy complex applications. Failed horribly with simple authentication type of softwares. I kinda like that, even though I paid for those products. heh.

[Demanding Truth]

Nice informative thread for the newbie.. These members are most definitely the honest caring honorable Linux experts, the masters...

I've tried all the Linux OS's.. I believe the best Linux for a beginner to start with is 'Linux Mint Mate 22.3.. It's fully customizable, clean, quiet, and doesn't fight the user in any way like most OS's do.. It installs in 20-minutes, and can be fully customized in about an hour.. If you know windows you know how to operate this OS, and it's three times more customizable than windows, and it doesn't insult you with goofy petty advertising, insane redirects, engineered exploit holes, spyware, forced updates and upgrades, that gosh awful start up noise, dancing cartoon dogs...

I strongly suggest the novice install this OS, and dig into it after reboot, left and right clicking on everything and anything, changing literally everything in the OS, making all the messes and mistakes, making a big huge mess in a fevered uncontrolled careless rush, not caring in the slightest that you are meticulously destroying the OS.. Have your curious experimental fun, then take a break from the computer.. Then return, reinstall it, and make all the right choices... Dump firefox.. Install Librewolf.. It is absolutely crucial you install the OS encrypting both the installation and home file folder.. Find the first encryption in the forth question check boxes in install.. Click the two encrypt boxes..
Today's internet organized crime war is powerful... Get used to using two passwords till the insane wars are over...
Look what china just did, they broke into America's government internet, and American's internet providers, and America's computers... And russia tried to cut internet sea cables..
To see what we are up against read in reddit about the seriously corrupt chinese Opera browser... Look at the new Firefox, all the user friendly options and security has been removed from it.. Don't use the new Firefox, or you will so be sorry, use Librewolf.. Now days there is no such thing as a secure OS, nor a safe internet.. It's all crime and war now... I can't stress enough the importance of establishing a secondary computer or a removable switchable extra hard drive that can't net-connect to store all your private precious lifetime computer data... One little bit of arabic evil on the Web could destroy everything you've saved..The global asylum kooks have just begun to attack the internet and the world's computers.. Millions will lose all of their computer data before the arabs insane war is over, plus we still have the kooks nukes to happen on some of our cities.. People will be turned into sticky stinky black stains on the bricks and cement.. That won't be fun...

I can't find another ISO download site I would trust these days.. I'm getting warning popups from Librewolf when I click on those download websites in that web search page.. Seems microstuf acquired Linux Mint, and is killing it with corruption, evil, and war... Register in any Linux Mint forum, and badmouth widows even the slightest, and into the thread comes the seven microstuf policy enforcer 'corporate police' to start a flame war with you with their overly edited colorful copied pasted flame war battle-posts... I

I've stopped playing gagagoogoo social on the Web... I use it for this forum, for ProtonMail, for the weather, for YouTube Ukraine war updates, for war strategy messages to a few friendly governments, and for occasional google searches, that's it.. No more 'quack', 'chirp', comments, nor 'blabber'... I reinstall this OS in this valueless 80-cent disposable netbook every two to three weeks to be sure it's clean of demon-poo... Do so dump Thunderbird and LibreOffice. they are big exploit holes for hackers...

[michaelk]

UFW is a frontend to netfilter which is part of the kernel. Are you implying the kernel is corrupted and has engineered holes? I believe portmaster also accesses netfilter using nfqueue. There are many linux security people that try to find holes in applications and the linux OS. If that was the case I would expect something would of been found by now.

[Demanding Truth]

google.com/search?q=ufw+exploit+holes

Ohhhh! So that's how the blackhatters get into the Linux OS, through UFW's exploit holes to the kernel.. Thanks for the heads-up piece of data warning us about the exploit properties of UFW... Seems we must configure UFW and Librewolf to be much stronger..
Everything state of the art these days can leak through UFW like it's a coarse sieve.. Using UFW without configuring it you would have as much security as if you typed on the screen in large red letters "BAD GUYS KEEP OUT!"..

microterror can see right through and reach right in through UFW and the kernel with Firefox like the firewall wasn't even there, is why microterror's policy enforcers and venomous web-serpents don't want us to remove Firefox in-favor of us installing Librewolf for REAL security, to enforce undesired honesty on it...

Badi is probably part of the why.. This is some of the secret depth of the why.. medium.com/hackernoon/migrating-wemove-co-from-azure-to-ubuntu-vm-on-digital-ocean-96280ce24777

[Demanding Truth]

The forum kicked out the microthht monster, oh yay.. I said to him: I'm hearing noises coming from a latrine.. Your blabbering screams of a microthht enforcer selling bs, conning the masses to employ porous software that you, your minions, slaves, and puppets corrupted, which they and you can exploit to do your thievery and bullying crimes for you.. I'd suggest you seek help, but it's too late for that... Your kind is not welcome in a Linux forum.. You bring hate, bullying, and evil.. You haven't said anything worth reading.. You shouldn't be near people.. You should be playing your violence video-games, and viewing TV cartoons...

I wager microthht hasn't noticed the correlation between how doing its evils against Linux, always comes back to it in real-time as instant karmic trials, tails, lashes, and tribulations, like how all of putin's war-bits always come back to and against him and russia in instant similar karmic echoes... It's like you step-on a sleeping guard dog's foot you get bit, you fall in the mud you get muddy, you eat poison you get dead, your tail slips off the branch, and you fall out of your tree, and go 'Splat!'.. All the bad that's happening in and to microthht, microthht is dishing out, and it's all coming back at them and you in karmic real-time.. Toss a pail of pee into the wind, you gets a pale of pee in the face, one of the laws of life and nature is action>reaction.. It's as if microthht is 'sheiting on its own head' with its insane war against Linux in damaging cyber-world with its evils, failing to realize that its world IS cyber-word.. microthht is destroying its own corporate world is why it's all falling apart and sinking.. All the computer industries, peripherals, and anomalies combined are a Family, Not a war! You corporate self-proclaimed (troubled) elitists are at war with yourselves and everything, pretending to be good while doing evil to your family, and us and our world.. You are cheating, bullying, and beating-up your clients and customers from where you acquire your yum yum mmmmm gagagoogoo MMMoney.. That's just bad business.. When microthht's demonic cocaino-damaged homosexual-apes have killed Linux, microthht will find itself dead too, in bankruptcy, shrivelled-up in its grave, in its penthouse crypt, like 'an upside-down canoe in the middle of an ocean, with sharks and crabs chewing on the remnants of the passengers corpses'.. Sheit on god's life, god's life sheits on you... And those mindless soulless hell-bound cannibal cristinsane mongrels actually still go to a church, grovel and kneel before hollow clay statues, eat cannibal ceremony breaded jesus-bits, recite children's prayer poems, and eat each others semen, believing those insane abomination acts make them heaven-worthy, that our nephilim heaven actually wants them in itself because they are insane and do evil.. If microthht wants all the troubles and problems to end, then they should cease creating troubles and problems for others.. Evil begets evil.. Black magic and evil demands life blood and essence payment is inescapable.. That's how hell works.. Sharing hell is you in hell doing hell's work.. Doing evil makes hell stronger, and you weaker, and you deeper into hell, is what the whole overly greedy kookoo world is doing right now in suiciding by doing so much evil, and is paying the price.. It's that simple.. Doing evil is like 'sadomasochisticly beating yourself with a nailboard', and burning yourself with fire, and stinging yourself with ice water, whilst numbly reciting children's prayer poems to a pretend cartoon god and a dead jesus for salvation, whom your vile criminal swamp-class family tortured to death 2000 years ago in your crazy war against love, life, truth, and science... Mr. Jesus was only trying to help your lives be happy, healthy, free, and prosperous.. and you violent delusional opium-enhanced g'rilas murdered him to stop him from helping you and saving you from hell...
Your insane war on Linux is your insane narcissistic war on yourself.. One day you'll wake-up rotting in hell, wondering how the hell you got there, hearing echoes of my irreverent scornful laughter throughout this universe, LOL!...
If microthht wants big money to flow-in, it should nurture and love Linux and life, and big money and love will come to microthht...
You sagging soft rubber dildos should wean yourselves off the brain mind spirit melter cocaino-poison before it makes you believe you are gods, and turns you queer, hateful, evil, hell-bound, and inside out... In the Family of Man we nurture and share with each other to make humanity strong, free, grow, and prosper.. We don't destroy each other, and steal and break each other's treasures to sell and steal everyone's money like nasty enraged filthy poop-coated pigs squabbling and fighting over the kitchen scraps at the farmer's stinking pig trough like you microthht pig's are doing with our precious Linux treasure, which belongs to all humanity.. It's not here for you to steal, break, devour, and sell.. All you do for life, love, humanity, universe, heaven is turn food into poop... If you want your product to sell, then make it a quality honorable useful functional product, not the nasty dishonest criminal crap sewage you're offering us today from your hell-biased greed-saturated organized mother-dependent criminal scam... You do Not own humanity!.. You do Not own the world!.. You're just a telephone company...

[Demanding Truth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)

I had asked the forum:
JustLinux Forum.. Would you please get rid of that microstuf bully.. All he wants to do is scorn, insult, bully, and fight.. He doesn't add anything to Linux but discord and hate.. He probably misses his mummy, needs an emergency diaper-change, and a wet nurse... Cocaino can really mess-up a person that way.. That deadly cocoa-leaf poison melts brains minds and spirits, turning humans into mindless loveless hateful zombies.. They lose all their love, truth, and humanity.. They probably devolve into enraged wild apes ('karens'), hating everyone and everything, even themselves, in being the classic textbook narcissist.. That's probably what eating human tissues at california's ('hellifornia's') cannibal eateries does to people.. It's probably extremely soul-debasing.. They probably lose all respect for humans when humans have become their fodder.. I sometimes wonder if those cannibals ever have nightmares of crying screaming human babies trying to crawl out of their mouths.. A scary killer dream that would be...
That bully guy just might be the one who has 'Storm Virus' set-up on a secret computer to hit the Net with 'Storm' after his death, to bash humanity from the grave or urn so hard that it crashes the global economy by erasing all windows OS's net-connected that hour, thereby deleting billions of peoples valued data, and millions of small business's records.. That would take one a hell of a lot of raw hate, I can't imagine how much.. I wager there would be times it would feel like its skin is on fire.. It probably doesn't get much closer to hell than that...

Our Linux group did a little research on him.. He stalks Linux and widows forums to start fights and flame wars as a hobby, bullying people being his way of living life.. He targets innocence and truth.. Seems he grows meaner and meaner by the minute as he nears his death, realizing he totally wasted his life being an unloved bully, a fool, a jerk, a total ah.. Being unloved must Sting greatly.. Sure wouldn't want to find out.. Wouldn't want to be him.. Ooooo YuK!..

If he does have some key secret Linux data under that sea of flaming hate, it would be nice if he had the smarts to share it honorably, but I doubt he has the stuff do do any good for Linux, Widows, and Humanity having melted his spirit with deadly spirit-killer cocaino-poison.. It seems all he has left of life is dying, pain, raw hate, and a mountain of self-pity...


I just caught this silly flash idea..
What if there was a Linux Distro labelled 'Love'.. assembled from all the best Linux has to offer, and then some, with even microstuf coming in on the project collaborating on a Linux/Widows concoction, which works with everything Linux and everything Widows..? That would help pull microstuf out of hell, and maybe even save them from their impending bankruptcy.. It would be the humanitarian thing to do, and just might pull that vile evil hell-monster off of Linux's back, and end their greed war if they were to feel love for the first time.. But love would probably be painful to them, and they would probably demand lots of money for it, and their extreme hate and greed would probably dominate the whole project, so it's a big no go.. Hell wouldn't know how to hate love, so it would need to kill it... Forget it, it couldn't work.. You can't mix heaven with hell, like 'oil and water don't mix'.. T'was just a dumb silly idea, sorry for thinking too much...

[Demanding Truth]

A critical heads-up people..

Given that 'StormVirus' could soon hit the internet, it is absolutely crucial that everyone running a widows OS with their valued data in it, and especially all businesses globally running widows, immediately acquire a secondary computer running Linux to save all their files in.. Or, it is possible to have just one computer with two hard drives.. You install Linux in a spare hard drive, preferably a new solid state hard drive.. Fill it up with all your precious data by transferring all your backup files to it, then switch back to the widows hard drive.. Use the Linux hard drive as your backup system.. When StormVirus hits the internet, destroying millions of widows computers, you'll still have a working Linux OS with a working copy of all your precious data safely stored in it.. Or buy a third SSD HD to use it as your secondary backup by connecting it to the computer with a hard drive USB adapter..
google.com/search?q=hard+drive+usb+adapter&udm=2
google.com/search?q=ssd+to+usb+adapter

You'll loose nothing from the evil StormVirus war... Then you format the wrecked hard drive, if it will format, and install Linux on it.. But! when Storm hit my three first computers back in W-98 days, the hard drives wouldn't install an OS.. Storm killed the hard drives too.. But these days we have DBAN hard drive formatter.. Maybe DBAN would repair a Storm damaged hard drive..? probably... Everyone who installs OS's should have a CD of DBAN... (Just one very important thing: never ever have an external media connected to the computer's usb slots when running DBAN)..

When Storm hits a computer, instantly the screen fills-up with the antivirus's or firewall's front page till the RAM runs out, thus the 'storm'.. Reboot is the infamous 'blue screen'.. The OS is totally thht.. Everything on it is lost.. There is no recovery from a Storm hit... Once I managed to rip out the power-cord when Storm started.. I ran the antivirus to find three powerful computer viruses in every file opened.. I lost one saved note, and one downloaded pix.. Reboot was the infamous blue screen... If you are running widows on the internet, make an isolated Linux backup of all your precious files, so you don't loose them to an insane bully's jollies.. Make this week your 'back up my files' week.. Be safe, not sorry...
I sure wouldn't want to lose my precious files.. I have everything in many secure backups since W-95 days to now, even this note.. After I tap the 'submit reply', I'll add this note to the backup hard drive, connected by the usb connector after I disconnect the net... I just clicked up 'new document', and pasted this note into it...
*Always before you click any buttons in a forum while you are writing a compose, copy and paste the note into a new document file on the desktop.. You could have been logged out, and suddenly your work is lost.. So right now I'm copying it, and pasting it into the new document window on the desktop and saving it... Now I can't lose it... Just a word to the wise...

Okie, Now I copy and paste this note, and click submit, then save it in the backup hard drive... This netbook's hard drive could crash and die right now, and I wouldn't care in the slightest.. I wouldn't lose anything I can't replace from backups.. Meeting microstuf up close and personal, and that Storm bug made me cautious, is why I switched to Linux long ago, is why millions of good people switched to Linux, and are today.. We've had enough of being bullied by cockhead head fags!.. microstuf lost one hell of a lot of money bullying people.. Linux was birthed to help people escape the incessant bullying... After the Storm hits I researched Linux..
I found a university lab creating Linux.. I barely managed to install it on a hard drive, then emailed them hundreds of new ideas on how to make Linux user friendly, fun, useful, and stable... Linux is built my way from my hundreds of suggestions.. I love Linux.. Linux was like 'a ladder to escape from helldows'.. One suggestion I am proud of was: "Hey guys, howzabout making a real-time visual list of what's happening when the OS is installing and updating.' and "Hey guys can you make the little boxes be the buttons..? and "Hey guys can we have it so picture editors sides can be grabbed by the cursor, and moved inward and outward.', and Hey guys can we have little smiling faces that we can stick in places in letters.", and hundreds more new ideas and suggestions.. I even got into speculating solving internal systems writing problems, and adding systems.. Suddenly Linux was fun and easy...

The best OS still is Linux Mint Mate 22.3.. Read how to install Linux in installations forum...

[Demanding Truth]

If the computer operating system is acting-up having silly troubles and glitches it means your OS caught some of the cyber diseases (malware) from the internet.. Save your recent work to a reliable flash drive (not made in china), or to an external hard drive.. Save your bookmarks, and reinstall the operating system fresh.. Now days the internet isn't safe for any OS.. The hacker-maggots can infiltrate and damage any and every OS... Last week the netbook's OS wouldn't save a new note on the desktop, so I transferred the few new files to a backup, and instantly reinstalled the OS... The hacker-maggots like to damage peoples computer word files.. It makes them feel like they are big tough-guy supermen in control of the whole world.. They don't have much control over anything else...Their deranged mummies would be so proud of them...

If you run into a permanent persistent 504, it's probably a virus, maybe reinstall the OS.. Keep in mind that there's a global war going on out there.. The kookoos war is in the internet too...
One thing I accidentally did when the computer was being pestered by a constant 504's is I changed hard drives, and in a half hour put the original hard drive back in, and the 504's vanished.. Maybe if you are bugged by a pest 504, you might try unplugging the notebook and pulling the notebook's battery for a few minutes.. Might do something..? Just guessing...

Make a secondary notebook that's used exclusively for the internet, not used for your treasured private files, editing, and archives.. Only add needed copies of backups to the netbook: pix, vids, notes, music.. copied/uploaded/backuped stuff that doesn't matter in the slightest if you lose any of it.. My crapper netbook has the installation CD always in the slot.. If something bad happens to the OS, I copy my most recent work to a flash drive, CD, or external HD, the three or four new files and a few downloads, push in the CD slot, reboot, and reinstall the OS.. So what if it takes 90-minutes... I have a hundred Linux-loaded notebook hard drives.. Should the netbook's OS get corrupted, out goes the hard drive, and in goes a new one, and I'm back on the Web in 2- minutes. The troubled hard drive goes to the utility desk to the utility notebook to have its OS DBAN'd and reinstalled...
These days it's good policy to check properties permissions before you transfer new items to the back up.. Do so check in properties that it isn't 'executable'.. If a download (pix or video) is executable, immediately delete it without opening it..

It's absolutely crucial you install the OS encrypting the installation and the home file.. If a new Linux installation ISO doesn't have those two encryption features it ain't worth 'a dead blade of grass in the lawn'.. From now on before I test a new Linux OS I'm gonna ask in their forum if the thing can be double encrypted.. If it can't, then I 'll just forget about it.. Won't waste my time downloading it...